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are there any links between the jewish
people living in modern israel and
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christians living in the gentile nations
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all of this is connected to an
extraordinary movement
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which christians are rediscovering are
hidden frankly it's
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and that's what we're going to be
discussing in this additional exploits
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hello i'm christine dara game with me is
bio teacher carol bishop from wales
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there was really great to have you on
the program and i want to thank you for
0:45
the number of times that you have come
0:48
to our conferences in israel
0:50
and for those who haven't heard about it
0:52
the hebrew roots movement involves
modern-day jews and christians including
0:58
who are returning to their perspectives
and beliefs
1:01
of our first century space as outlined
in the new testament
1:06
hillary's movement strongly emphasizes
the completion
1:10
of the unified house of israel
1:14
who's known in hebrew as you show up
1:17
and this column out that israel is made
up of both jews
1:23
what the apostle paul called the one new
man
1:27
and they're all how did you become
identified with this movement
1:32
well bt i became a and believe me lord
jesus christ when i was twelve years of
1:38
out before then that i had said that
uh... that voter pete
1:42
and of of love towards the the jewish
people
1:46
and of course is that as a but i believe
that it has been growing in my faith
1:53
of quarters for this
1:54
my understanding of of columns and pac
ten
1:59
has become more and more clear to me
2:01
and do you see that many believers in
the character
2:04
waking up to air to break waves
2:07
well little by little it i think this is
still early days uh... especially in the
2:12
piano for there is certain apart towards
2:15
who uh... really and rediscovering
2:17
their heritage and the lord god to
vaporize ac
2:21
handshake at the met believers who are
part of the hebrew words movement
2:25
believe that we've become a color hair
2:28
and equal number of god's chosen an
electrical
2:32
through the actual blood atonement
2:34
of jesus you show up
2:36
and then after returning to the mindset
of the first century church
2:40
will provide deeper and more often taken
sites and in hebrew a_t_m_s
2:45
and first-century cultural
understandings that are presented in the
2:50
now there's also the sacred name
movement
2:55
that means using other he wheelbase
forms uh... for
3:00
issue uh... you hold off
3:02
uh... are you a part of this movement to
use could break sacred names
3:07
yeah i do tend to use here than in the u
always rather than cards
3:11
that uh... especially my own personal
divorce shins
3:14
you know seven distance and scripture
more more more it's been more clear to
3:19
me that you know that the kahane's
3:21
uh... will become known by his name and
actually
3:25
indiana taken away of the holy name was
part of punishment scripture sense
3:31
but i believe that's as we are living in
times of the restoration of all things
3:35
because it is gonna again real we can
3:39
to land to cool years and he is
3:43
it's interesting you say in your
personal devotions that
3:47
you learn being more accurate
3:50
instead of using these uh...
3:53
generic names for died in jesus which
3:57
some people on today say have even pagan
roots to them
4:02
why is it that you feel it's important
to be more accurate
4:06
and the way you address deti
4:09
while he is a holy god jesus set apart
cards
4:12
and you know we not supposed to worship
in any way in which we did we decide yet
4:16
you know that he's give us instructions
given us is pour out which literally
4:20
means older teach-in an instruction as
well
4:23
and i believe that as we get to know him
as we get to know is character more more
4:28
we get to know who he is
4:31
you know and i guess that's where wagner
4:34
let's talk about the theology of this
very important in that
4:39
and the role of the torah
4:41
which as you said as i hear a word
4:46
but the greek interpretations have
shortened it to the word law now thats
4:51
caused a lot of problems
4:53
because people in the church do not want
to be
4:59
the traditional tara is comprised of the
first five books of the bible
5:04
deteriorates followers who use the word
torrent differently and in more broadly
5:10
i believe that they do
5:12
you know because as i just mentioned to
arrive just
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doesn't just mean lol but it does mean
teach-in an instruction as well and of
5:19
course as we approach the end times we
know that the uh... v_i_p_ messiah the
5:25
he's the man of lawlessness and so we
5:27
we have to remember that he's also going
to be a a man of toward les mis
5:33
and so i think that's an interesting
aspect
5:36
of the whole issue of of torah that
understands
5:40
alan alan organized to when you say car
of course they'll only thank
5:44
of the books of moses but allot of
people in the hebrew roots movement
5:49
when when they were for to kara
5:51
in this process meaning teaching
instruction
5:54
sometimes are they thinking of the whole
sixty-six books and the canon of
5:59
wildly that the fire the first five
books of moses oversee foundational to
6:03
to what we believe into what we stand
6:06
the movement advocates and return to car
observance including
6:12
keeping the sound of which is the
seventh
6:17
uh... and celebrating the face of the
lord
6:20
and uh... i i've been amazed to see how
many
6:24
churches all over the world in the
nation's as i travel the nation's art
6:28
week honoring the feast of the lord
they're celebrating passover
6:32
even if he's attacking apples and
6:34
this is not advocate out of any
legalistic bondage but because
6:38
adoption and in grafting
6:41
intercom weapon israel has now made it
6:44
the right of every morning and labor in
the messiah
6:50
in the lifestyle of the jewish people
6:52
so if you do you returned to
6:55
keeping the sound of prayer and know
that you've been involved in that many
6:58
of the uh... recoveries of the
7:03
what's in the inner cities we we have to
look at scripture and says that
7:07
as a man that i had a good education in
uh... in the baptist college
7:11
you know one of the tools that we were
given was that tito script restaurant if
7:17
and so as we as we look again into david
because twenty-three feasts
7:22
of your way they they actually not
feasts
7:25
that belong to the jewish people but
they are feasts that belong to
7:30
you know so as we look at those fees
that are listed there
7:33
you know we we're back in ninety seven
and we will need to have the research we
7:38
because says he always says that these
are my upon tuned feasts
7:42
you know there's nothing there about
sunday worship is nothing there
7:45
apple christmas or easter
7:47
thank god says these are my appointed
feasts
7:50
yes the human word is actually mother he
meaning
7:53
my appointed seasons
7:56
so god himself has a calendar that
7:59
most people today who are keeping our
eye on it
8:03
but you know a couple years ago maybe
and maybe more than they did a fine
8:07
i'm for the release of two to speak to
me about um... actually twenty one which
8:13
issue a jesus has to be captain had been
and to the time comes for the
8:20
and you know what i'm assigned looked
into the scripture and as that scripture
8:24
became more and more part of
8:27
then i realized you know that those
feasts
8:30
uh... were appointed seasons
8:32
but not only they appointed seasons
8:35
one of the of the woods in scripture
that describe him stores feasts in the
8:38
biggest twenty-three
8:40
is actually met correct
8:41
which means rehearsal
8:43
and set you know as we uh... as we
approach the end of each when when the
8:47
issue of comes back and he
8:49
establishes that i was in your reign
8:52
you know from jerusalem you know we know
that again and and this is a
8:56
controversial thing to say perhaps
8:58
but we do know that that temple will
already have been completed by then
9:02
and we do know that in the millennium
and tying that you know those those
9:06
feasts i will be uh... in in operation
again
9:10
as as we think of the word negro we
uh... we are um...
9:13
we actually come to terms with factory
rehearsing things
9:17
we know you'll be hearing things but we
do rehearsing things that is that there
9:21
is a campaign relevant because as you
know my husband i've been involved
9:26
who is the international christian
andersen for thirty years now putting on
9:32
celebration during the peace of
tabernacle zen israel
9:35
and i always feel they're all that we
are rehearsing
9:41
for the time when jesus returns and all
of the nation's anzac rise up to
9:47
will be commanded to come up whether
they want to or not
9:51
during the millennial reign
9:52
people are going to have to keep this
festivals of the lord so it's best
9:57
to start rehearsing them now
10:00
let me ask you about question because i
uh... i believe you're one of our local
10:03
experts on on this whole subject
10:06
anti-bill are afraid
10:08
uh... in general of the he brinkley's
with them because they're afraid of
10:13
is there a danger uh...
10:15
of becoming a legalistic n
10:18
forgetting about grace hebrew roots
teachers emphasize the adoption of all
10:22
believers in jesus christ into that
10:27
as often called in the bible of the
unified house of israel made up of jews
10:34
who maintain faith in jesus
10:40
adherents to the that's for event
10:43
teachings and instructions of god
10:46
and how do we balance the two we know as
i a m as i understand that the festivals
10:50
the feasts of the lords
10:52
hundred because im because they they are
things that he that he's appointed
10:57
you know i don't believe that they all
payton someone we when we celebrate his
11:01
in their phone banks
11:03
and and becoming away a all of those
feasts of the lord to sakshi and bought
11:08
more liberty i'd believe
11:10
in my own personal walk with him then
than i ever did
11:13
in the church and medicine the chip
system really
11:17
for uh... divested of thirty years
11:20
animated bible teacher once say that
when the pattern is right
11:24
the glory will fall
11:26
and of course it is our job that is used
teaches in his past incident
11:30
as officers of of local congregations to
make sure that that
11:34
you know that structure is right
11:37
that the pattern is right for the glory
11:39
and twofold because you know when you
sure when jesus comes back
11:43
he's coming back for somebody and or
something
11:47
that he recognizes and of course the
brightness be without spartan vanish
11:53
i want us to consider and when i start
school itself
11:56
waves of the things that have become i'm
normally ships of course of action
12:03
and in the bride's because you know and
and as you look into the origins of
12:08
perhaps and sunday worshipers we think
of of them are in constant i mean you
12:13
know what hope who i am was a
12:15
pollution for of the seine
12:17
handle who was a mystery estan
12:19
and he tried to and combined the worship
of the sand
12:23
with christianity try to blend the two
to get them
12:26
and he had talked to this
12:28
and sunday as the day he of worship and
of course
12:32
you know we know that in the in the
regarded to go into the pot the seventh
12:37
and of course we know that to us as new
coming to the press
12:41
that i would job is to provoke
12:43
the house of judah jewish people into
genessee
12:47
and uh... when when when think severe of
the sabbath
12:51
you know and they know that god is a god
it doesn't change
12:56
you know how does dot actually sanction
13:01
he said i am lauren
13:03
i'd change not relief youth just drawing
this addition of exploits and christine
13:13
from wales and we're discussing the hw
break roots movement and
13:18
the fact i think it's very important to
point out is that
13:21
in this movement we're returning
13:23
to abella call view of god in a biblical
way of life
13:28
that is not the ceremonial law
13:32
his tara his law his his teachings
instructions
13:37
are written on our hearts
13:39
now in the book of jose r and also in
13:44
three in verse eight
13:45
god gave the norm drinking then there is
13:48
israel and the rest of divorce
13:50
for her idolatry and told her that
13:52
he was scattered the nation to the ends
of the earth
13:55
and that promise was fulfilled in the
uh... syrian conquests
13:59
and the dispersion of the northern
kingdom
14:02
the southern came down which was made up
of the tribes of judah benjamin and at
14:08
uh... was exiled for seventy years but
they've returned to the land of israel
14:14
under the leadership of as around
14:17
however dot promised that in these last
days he would reunite these two sticks
14:23
one representing the northern kingdom e
atrium
14:26
and at the stake of judah and we see
this and he's a cool chapter
14:36
will come to an end of two thousand
seven hundred years of separation
14:41
between the ancestors of the ten
14:44
northern tribes sometimes called the
lost
14:49
and the two tribes of the sovereign
kingdom known commonly as
14:55
and i think there are less important to
point out that some but not all his
15:00
regrets and parents believe that their
ancestors clipping remnants
15:04
of the ten lost tribes that are now
returning
15:08
to a non pagan eyes following
15:11
as you mentioned uh... you sheila jesus
15:14
along with his whole tara is his
teaching
15:18
and in this movement we're taught that
the god of abraham isaac and jacob grant
15:26
who truly weakness in faith and returns
to him
15:30
for their deliverance
15:32
and trusting in the blood atonement
15:37
and also god's teaching instruction
15:42
the believers believe that the
christians have the testimony of messiah
15:49
on their hearts that jesus did not
15:54
how do you feel about all of these
things
15:56
quantity that uses didn't come to
abolish the law of the that's
15:59
description says he came to fully
complete floor
16:03
and in fact scripture says that uh...
and those who do no follow-up
16:07
his teachings will become the least
16:12
and as i mentioned earlier that the
whole problem with the current safety
16:18
that we um... interpret as being the law
and teaching here from tora
16:22
you know so that we have to revisit that
you know because
16:25
he's utah's teachings you always
teachings you know and remained in place
16:31
do you know it is and at a time of
discovery and rediscovery
16:36
you know i mean some because
16:37
we've been taught uh...
16:39
over the years you know in a different
traditions
16:42
and incidently the conditions in the
nullify the word of god
16:46
but we've been told that you know that
day
16:49
the cheeses and the apostle paul
16:52
window and absurd and choose which of
course
16:55
is ludicrous when when when uh... looks
into the scriptures in in with that
17:00
you know uh... through the i use of of
17:03
the holy spirit understanding rather
than church tradition
17:06
then we can see that you know that the
things that they dead
17:10
the things that both cheeses and the
apostle paul did
17:14
were in compliance with uh... with the
the word of god
17:18
in its written form
17:20
because we know that the cheese has
really knew how to into threats
17:24
and the father's lords
17:26
the father's instructions
17:28
you know and he he had
17:30
heated things on the stand that
17:32
which cause did a religious people of
his datagrid calling
17:35
and to think that he was not from and
from the always at school
17:39
and so you know it's an exciting juni as
we end this character
17:44
and his instructions and as we discover
17:46
that jesus was observance
17:48
that he didn't come to do away with with
every aspect
17:52
of toy we know that you know the aspect
of of of his instructions that's we no
17:57
longer subject to is that the bear
aspect that's
18:02
you know we have because of all send me
an open and tony
18:05
because of course jesus became i would
be stupid and jesus became our sacrifice
18:10
and scripture says pessimism and
quicksand
18:13
the lord no longer holtz against him
18:16
and and and because of all of this
recovery ever hebrew roots
18:21
we're having ideals as an amazing time
of fellowship
18:26
between christians and jews
18:28
and uh... i think this is an
extraordinary movement that's going on
18:33
and uh... they knowledge
18:36
that the jewish people have been the
safe keepers
18:40
of god's teaching instruction
18:42
and eventually the lost
18:45
of israel will turn to the jeans
18:48
and uh... clinging to them to find
instruction we see that
18:52
in the prophecy in sacrament accurately
interest twenty three in
18:56
it's even the theme of the conference we
have coming up in israel that the days
19:00
are coming says the lord when
19:02
ten men out of the nation's will take
hold of the garment of him who is a gene
19:07
and say we will go with you
19:10
because we've heard that god is with the
u_n_
19:13
after clinton's program before what's so
exciting about that prophecy zachariah
19:17
that says in hebron
19:19
ten am ashamed and which is the word for
people
19:24
meaning men and women in the last days
will take all
19:28
uh... the garment thusly visits like the
tallied the personal injuries person
19:34
we want your instruction we
19:36
we have gone too far restrictive
foreigner picket lines
19:40
and people who re-examines this move of
god
19:45
i think um... would do well to take the
advice
19:48
of rabbi again malayalam remember that
in the book of acts how do you feel
19:53
hoops it's true you know the things that
we're seeing day after they were like
19:56
that stands in the world would be would
be cool to be right
20:00
or you know sort of
20:02
games will disappear you know and amelia
was was absolutely spot on the news in
20:08
and of course if if people out there
that uh... watching us today
20:12
and to really uh... understands
20:14
or uh... feeling perhaps jolidon despair
it then
20:18
than what i would say he's please pray
for the things that we talk about its
20:22
and please you know if you need to to to
watch the parade please watchin pray and
20:27
done research for yourself
20:29
you know looking to do with regards and
uh...
20:32
and again you know sort of realize
20:34
their work our conditions of both the
regarding to the state of nothingness
20:40
in a few minutes left on the program
let's look for just a few minutes and
20:44
typical statement of faith
20:46
coming out of the he break waves
movement
20:48
and i think that if we will look if you
these points will say that basically
20:55
the truths of the scriptures are
20:58
account one hundred percent it's just
the traditions of men which jesus said
21:03
void the power of god
21:05
that we're trying to
21:07
hachette in these last days and uh...
the
21:09
first point of the state of faith in
hebron roots movement is
21:16
as he has revealed himself in the holy
21:20
and that you sheila is the son of god on
the side of the eternal one
21:26
and whom all the fullness of dent in the
wealth
21:31
and you believe that the word became
flesh
21:35
and we've been held his glory the glory
of the unique leader got inside god
21:40
full of grace and truth
21:42
everybody media gregory smith that would
embrace that
21:45
that's from john chapter one
21:49
fidelity of of the issue and his virgin
birth
21:52
of course you know uh... jesus we sure
was a serious man
21:56
and you have to be serious meant to be a
c no for it
22:00
on our behalf to the father
22:02
and what about his miracles and here's
what i mean death
22:07
all of these things we see
22:10
and isaiah fifty three uh...
22:12
daniel chapter nine versus twenty four
twenty seven
22:16
actually is one of the most powerful
22:18
scriptures prophecies in the whole bible
22:21
uh... and of course uh... everyone in
the movement believes in his bodily
22:28
and uh... that he's coming back
22:31
basis in this year descriptive e unit
food to settle cheese is coming in
22:35
and not just to hang with us but i
cannot go in
22:38
with this you know and uh...
22:40
there's a sense that he was actually
born in on this he sit out knuckles and
22:44
and we know that when he was an amount
of of trusted racial copy took place
22:48
you know during the feast of top
knuckles and again you know the richness
22:53
you know because we look forward to
hearing top inoculating with s did in
22:57
the millennium rain
22:59
now to have sound doctrine it's very
important to believe that
23:03
the bible is the only inspired
infallible
23:06
word of god in and would you say that
they can break roots movement is
23:11
uh... really undermining the authority
of the bible even more than ever
23:18
you know because we know that in the end
times they will be tom cruise that will
23:23
so it's just so important for us to do
23:27
to his words you know that we really
uh...
23:30
allowed the word of of the messiah to do
well in that
23:34
ritually into chat consent
23:39
now man uh... is created stan evans and
likeness uh... guitar says of
23:46
and in that reference guide isn't the
plural form
23:50
and i think one thing that the break
rights movement is doing is he's showing
23:55
guide is a trial unity
23:59
you know that there is one guard reputed
uh... you know in a nationwide here
24:04
though israel and gods
24:06
the lord is one that and that word one
marie's hod
24:10
which can mean a unity
24:16
so salvation is the free gift of god to
man apart from works
24:23
servation can be found two only
24:27
of the issue of by the blood of jesus by
at this nicks act in him
24:31
to be their own personal lives
24:33
and save here that is no other way
24:36
it's not by works that we receive best
handyman wars
24:40
i think one thing that has really on
helped me so much in this discussion is
24:46
to revisit the word for it because
24:49
so much in our church is the moment we
hear that we rethink immediately of just
24:56
but the word means god's teaching
24:59
his instruction his direction
25:02
it's a comprehensive summary and
transcontinental and his teachings
25:07
and so we encourage all believers but
u_n_ donji to affirm embrace
25:12
and practiced these
25:15
foundational teachings and commands
25:18
has clarified to the words in lifestyle
of issue a are messiah
25:24
and what about doing baptism of the holy
spirit is is that
25:27
part of the teaching of the he break
roots movement where they would p_c_p_
25:30
part of my teaching you know in my
experience
25:34
you know that's and that all of us have
been given the and the the three cat
25:39
from the army to and to move in the
guests
25:42
hopis a holy spirit and i believe that
they are essential
25:46
in these last days you know the gates of
the holy spirit and soul essential but
25:50
of course you know we need to be more
than in those guests
25:53
we need to be moving in the fruit of the
spirit
25:56
but of course we we have to avoid
26:00
and torrent of snacks
26:01
you know and sam untreated uh... holy
god in any way in which we uh... we we
26:08
to write because continents
26:10
to the worship team spirit
26:12
and in truth in we all know that
26:14
what pictures isn't all
26:17
and then we'll spend some wonderful to
have you on this additional exploits
26:21
and we look forward to out talking with
you in the future and other programs
26:26
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26:41
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26:45
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26:49
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26:52
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dangerous when summits
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an arab women on the walls ancestry
prayer meetings please explore our
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and troubled eddie dot exploits dot tv
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meanwhile i've been getting some very
enthusiastic responses and testimonies
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two fifty pages book i've written called
speak to the mountain
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this book is a useful summary of god's
promises from the bible of how he wants
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and to overcome sickness and disease and
maintain are helix
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by book as such incursions to build your
faith
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and know how the challenge illness with
the word of god
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we publish the book in israel
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and another book that's just going into
its third edition is miracles among
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muslims the jesus pigeons
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from my travels in the islamic world
from morocco all the way to arabia and
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hijacking in an amazing stories of how
jesus is appearing injuring
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sometimes individuals and sometimes to
intern villages
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this book is a great insight into the
spiritual dimension of more than a
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billion dear people
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in the muslim world and how much jesus
is touching their lives
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in supernatural encounters
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miracles among muslims and speak to the
mountain
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are just two resources your fine
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at trouble w dot exploits dot tv
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until our next time together and
christine dark saying shilo
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and reminding you of daniel chapter
eleven in verse thirty two
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those who know god will be strong
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